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1 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] 2 helo=mx.sourceforge.net) 3 by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) 4 (envelope-from <g.rowe.froot@gmail.com>) id 1WO5hp-0004BR-Uy 5 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; 6 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:29:53 +0000 7 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com 8 designates 209.85.128.170 as permitted sender) 9 client-ip=209.85.128.170; envelope-from=g.rowe.froot@gmail.com; 10 helo=mail-ve0-f170.google.com; 11 Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com ([209.85.128.170]) 12 by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) 13 (Exim 4.76) id 1WO5ho-0006y4-DN 14 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; 15 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:29:53 +0000 16 Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id pa12so1073550veb.15 17 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; 18 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:29:47 -0700 (PDT) 19 MIME-Version: 1.0 20 X-Received: by 10.52.11.100 with SMTP id p4mr72137vdb.52.1394717386902; Thu, 21 13 Mar 2014 06:29:46 -0700 (PDT) 22 Sender: g.rowe.froot@gmail.com 23 Received: by 10.220.251.65 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:29:46 -0700 (PDT) 24 In-Reply-To: <CAJHLa0OMcTCgGESi-F4jT2NA3FyCeMYbD_52j47t3keEYBfK8g@mail.gmail.com> 25 References: <CAKaEYhK4oXH3hB7uS3=AEkA6r0VB5OYyTua+LOP18rq+rYajHg@mail.gmail.com> 26 <52852C2D.9020103@gmail.com> <52853D8A.6010501@monetize.io> 27 <CAJHLa0M6CkoDbD6FFixf9-mmhug7DvehSWCJ+EHWVxUDuwNiBg@mail.gmail.com> 28 <EE02A310-8604-4811-B2D0-FC32C72C20F3@grabhive.com> 29 <CAJHLa0OMcTCgGESi-F4jT2NA3FyCeMYbD_52j47t3keEYBfK8g@mail.gmail.com> 30 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:29:46 +0000 31 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MAMSUGbUFLC6m1lldYUEvW1_YOY 32 Message-ID: <CAKm8k+3J9Po4xQn9LhTQrnrGCvG36-kLCjWPX4kmd-c7h+LujA@mail.gmail.com> 33 From: Gary Rowe <g.rowe@froot.co.uk> 34 To: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> 35 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3030bfd568928c04f47cf25e 36 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) 37 X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 38 See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 39 -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for 40 sender-domain 41 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider 42 (g.rowe.froot[at]gmail.com) 43 -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 44 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 45 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, 46 not necessarily valid 47 -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 48 X-Headers-End: 1WO5ho-0006y4-DN 49 Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc 50 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net 51 X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 52 Precedence: list 53 List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> 54 List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, 55 <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> 56 List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> 57 List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> 58 List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> 59 List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, 60 <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> 61 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:29:54 -0000 62 63 --20cf3030bfd568928c04f47cf25e 64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 65 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 66 67 The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive presentation issue. 68 As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving pretty much every 69 possible combination: icon, m+icon, =CE=BC+icon, BTC, mBTC, =CE=BCBTC, XB= 70 T, 71 mXBT, =CE=BCXBT, sat along 72 with settings for leading/trailing symbol, commas, spaces and points. This 73 allows anyone to customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered 74 default. 75 76 We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit symbols (i.e no 77 conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc). 78 79 Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from the Font 80 Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems that =CE=BC+icon i= 81 s 82 more sensible. 83 84 Let us know what you'd like. 85 86 Links: 87 m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG 88 Font Awesome icon: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/ 89 NIST SI guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html 90 91 92 On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> wrote: 93 94 > Resurrecting this topic. Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks 95 > ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was 96 > uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in 97 > additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place 98 > transition. 99 > 100 > 101 > 102 > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell <w@grabhive.com> wrote: 103 > > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this, let's do i= 104 t 105 > right after the fee system is improved. 106 > > 107 > > -wendell 108 > > 109 > > grabhive.com | twitter.com/hivewallet | gpg: 6C0C9411 110 > > 111 > > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote: 112 > > 113 > >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems handle 114 > numbers to 115 > >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The opposite is 116 > >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places). 117 > > 118 > 119 > 120 > 121 > -- 122 > Jeff Garzik 123 > Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist 124 > BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ 125 > 126 > 127 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= 128 ----- 129 > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book 130 > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and thei= 131 r 132 > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, 133 > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! 134 > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech 135 > _______________________________________________ 136 > Bitcoin-development mailing list 137 > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net 138 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development 139 > 140 141 --20cf3030bfd568928c04f47cf25e 142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 143 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 144 145 <div dir=3D"ltr">The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive pr= 146 esentation issue. As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving = 147 pretty much every possible combination: icon, m+icon,=C2=A0<span style=3D"f= 148 ont-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">=C2=A0=CE=BC</s= 149 pan>+icon, BTC, mBTC,=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font= 150 -size:12.800000190734863px">=C2=A0=CE=BC</span>BTC, XBT, mXBT,=C2=A0<span s= 151 tyle=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">=C2=A0= 152 =CE=BC</span>XBT,=C2=A0sat=C2=A0along with settings for leading/trailing sy= 153 mbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows anyone to customise to meet th= 154 eir own needs beyond the offered default.=C2=A0<div> 155 <br></div><div>We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit s= 156 ymbols (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc).<di= 157 v><br></div><div>Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken fr= 158 om the Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems that<s= 159 pan style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">= 160 =C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.80000= 161 0190734863px">=CE=BC+icon is more sensible.=C2=A0</span></div> 162 <div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907348= 163 63px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;fon= 164 t-size:12.800000190734863px">Let us know what you'd like.</span></div><= 165 div> 166 <span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px"= 167 ><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz= 168 e:12.800000190734863px">Links:</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:= 169 arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">m+icon screenshot:=C2=A0</= 170 span><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><a href=3D"http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG">= 171 http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG</a></font></div> 172 <div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907348= 173 63px">Font Awesome icon:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://fortawesome.github.i= 174 o/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/">http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/bt= 175 c/</a></div> 176 <div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">NIST SI guidelines:=C2=A0= 177 <a href=3D"http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html">http://physics.ni= 178 st.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html</a></span><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"= 179 gmail_extra"> 180 <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik <spa= 181 n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jgarzik@bitpay.com" target=3D"_blank">j= 182 garzik@bitpay.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote= 183 " style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 184 Resurrecting this topic. =C2=A0Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks<b= 185 r> 186 ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was<br> 187 uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in<br> 188 additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place<br> 189 transition.<br> 190 <div class=3D""><br> 191 <br> 192 <br> 193 On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell <<a href=3D"mailto:w@grabhive.c= 194 om">w@grabhive.com</a>> wrote:<br> 195 > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this, let&#= 196 39;s do it right after the fee system is improved.<br> 197 ><br> 198 > -wendell<br> 199 ><br> 200 > <a href=3D"http://grabhive.com" target=3D"_blank">grabhive.com</a> | <= 201 a href=3D"http://twitter.com/hivewallet" target=3D"_blank">twitter.com/hive= 202 wallet</a> | gpg: 6C0C9411<br> 203 ><br> 204 > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:<br> 205 ><br> 206 >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems handle n= 207 umbers to<br> 208 >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The opposite= 209 is<br> 210 >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places).<br> 211 ><br> 212 <br> 213 <br> 214 <br> 215 --<br> 216 </div>Jeff Garzik<br> 217 Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist<br> 218 BitPay, Inc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://bitpay.com/" target=3D"= 219 _blank">https://bitpay.com/</a><br> 220 <br> 221 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= 222 ---<br> 223 Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book<br> 224 "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases = 225 and their<br> 226 applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,<br> 227 this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!<br> 228 <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf= 229 .net/sfu/13534_NeoTech</a><br> 230 <div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">___________________________________= 231 ____________<br> 232 Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> 233 <a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitcoin-develo= 234 pment@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> 235 <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development= 236 " target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-de= 237 velopment</a><br> 238 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> 239 240 --20cf3030bfd568928c04f47cf25e-- 241 242